Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
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Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Hi,
just a short question. Is it possible to reverse the Seeds from a Hardlock Dongle Key. I mean without having the Dongle itself. Maybe there is a way to extract them from the Plugin/Dongle tool itself.
The Modad I'm looking of is XXXX
Thanks for any hint
cu
Lomex
just a short question. Is it possible to reverse the Seeds from a Hardlock Dongle Key. I mean without having the Dongle itself. Maybe there is a way to extract them from the Plugin/Dongle tool itself.
The Modad I'm looking of is XXXX
Thanks for any hint
cu
Lomex
Last edited by Lomex on Thu May 23, 2013 12:52 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Yes, it is possible.
For calculate the seeds enveloped software or HL_LOGIN parameters is required.
For calculate the seeds enveloped software or HL_LOGIN parameters is required.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
from HLM_LOGIN RefKey/VerKey pair need - is better
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Enveloped file give 100% chance to success, unlike Refkey/Verkey pair.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Hi,
its seems to be some fun for both of you, talking about simple things like this, which you for sure, could fix since over 5 years.
But even this might be obvious for you guys, a little bit more information, than "its possible" (which I already expected) would be helpfull.
But I guess, that wont happen. Am I right ?
cu
Lomex
its seems to be some fun for both of you, talking about simple things like this, which you for sure, could fix since over 5 years.
But even this might be obvious for you guys, a little bit more information, than "its possible" (which I already expected) would be helpfull.
But I guess, that wont happen. Am I right ?
cu
Lomex
Last edited by Lomex on Thu May 23, 2013 12:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
try to find it, he is on public:
- Code:
// File: hl_seed.c
// HARDLOCK Key Seeds brute-force finder
// Copyright (C) 2002-2005, SaPu
//
// Purpose:
// Finding the Key Seeds from the ID_Ref & ID_Verify values.
//
// Note:
// Although the program has been optimized for speed using 'asm' code,
// a full 'brute force' search still requires 20-30 hours on a 2GHz CPU.
// If interrupted, the search is restarted from last savepoint.
//
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
At BFox.
I found it and compiled it. But again how this tool is helping me "extracting" the Seeds from a specific EXE file.
How to use this tool ?
How to get the ID_Ref and ID_Verify values without having the dongle?
If I just start it, it just starting doing some calculations. Doesnt make sense, since I didnt give it information to calculate something.
Maybe you got some last hints.
cu
Lomex
I found it and compiled it. But again how this tool is helping me "extracting" the Seeds from a specific EXE file.
How to use this tool ?
How to get the ID_Ref and ID_Verify values without having the dongle?
If I just start it, it just starting doing some calculations. Doesnt make sense, since I didnt give it information to calculate something.
Maybe you got some last hints.
cu
Lomex
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
if you run exe without dongle with toro logger - you can see ref/ver pair.
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Sometimes ref/ver pair in LOGIN function is empty or fake.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
@nodongle.
I dont think, that this guy put in any special protection.
I found this with Toro (did the mistake using Hasplogger, which wont show those values).
RefKey=XXX
VerKey=XXX
If I named the seed tool "seed.exe"
How is the command now to start the tool and use the above values ?
Thanks
I dont think, that this guy put in any special protection.
I found this with Toro (did the mistake using Hasplogger, which wont show those values).
RefKey=XXX
VerKey=XXX
If I named the seed tool "seed.exe"
How is the command now to start the tool and use the above values ?
Thanks
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
you need put ref/ver key inside source and recompile it like
// static WORD MODAD = 0x7471; //29809 = Demo Key
static BYTE RefKey[8] = {'H','A','R','D','L','O','C','K'};
static BYTE VerKey[8] = {0x18,0x4C,0x97,0xF0,0xC0,0x7A,0x08,0x88};
in main()
we can see it
find_seed(RefKey, VerKey);
// static WORD MODAD = 0x7471; //29809 = Demo Key
static BYTE RefKey[8] = {'H','A','R','D','L','O','C','K'};
static BYTE VerKey[8] = {0x18,0x4C,0x97,0xF0,0xC0,0x7A,0x08,0x88};
in main()
we can see it
find_seed(RefKey, VerKey);
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Thanks. Makes sense. Is this correct now, and what about the
#else
part. No modification ?
#else
part. No modification ?
- Code:
#if 0
#else
static WORD MODAD = 0x4798; //18328 = Red Key
static BYTE RefKey[8] = {0x68, 0xDF, 0xBD, 0x3C, 0x78, 0xCC, 0xCC, 0xAA};
static BYTE VerKey[8] = {0x23, 0x0B, 0xFE, 0x04, 0x53, 0x8D, 0x9C, 0x3A};
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
after finish you get this Test
and you need recovery the dongle memory
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Seeds: 4679 72AA 941D
Dongle memory must contains RUS license with all features.
Dongle memory must contains RUS license with all features.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Hehe,
I "knew" it that it exist a "faster" way, rather than using this tool, which needs 1-2 days to calculate all options. Guess you guys did in seconds.
And I guess also that nodongle.biz offered the Seeds, since he "knows" that they would be useless for me (with my knowledge).
And you are right. The dongle uses RUS in the data memory. Took the memory from another dongle with also RUS code inside, and it shows me now a dongle number inside the Dongle Test tool.
Thanks for the help guys. But it would be still ineresting to know the "fast" way of reversing the Seeds
cu
Lomex
I "knew" it that it exist a "faster" way, rather than using this tool, which needs 1-2 days to calculate all options. Guess you guys did in seconds.
And I guess also that nodongle.biz offered the Seeds, since he "knows" that they would be useless for me (with my knowledge).
And you are right. The dongle uses RUS in the data memory. Took the memory from another dongle with also RUS code inside, and it shows me now a dongle number inside the Dongle Test tool.
Thanks for the help guys. But it would be still ineresting to know the "fast" way of reversing the Seeds
cu
Lomex
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Lomex wrote:But it would be still inersting to know the "fast" way of reversing the Seeds
access to dongle =)
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
"Faster way" require up to 4-5 hours to find the seeds.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Guys believe it or not. Got it working now. Btw this tool is working
Thanks again nodongle for the Seeds
Thanks again nodongle for the Seeds
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Hi All!
Can anybody share this tool for finding seeds from reg/ver pair. I don't have a dongle or a dmp. My ModAD is 6AE2. The software is called Finest.
Can anybody share this tool for finding seeds from reg/ver pair. I don't have a dongle or a dmp. My ModAD is 6AE2. The software is called Finest.
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Here what comes from Toro monitor:
Hardlock In:> HLM_LOGIN: ModAd=27362 (0x6AE2),
RefKey=FINEST50, 46494E4553543530
VerKey=5Ťaˇ, 358D61A10200D027
Hardlock In:> HLM_LOGIN: ModAd=27362 (0x6AE2),
RefKey=FINEST50, 46494E4553543530
VerKey=5Ťaˇ, 358D61A10200D027
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Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
Do you have some ciphered data via hl_code?
I need it for find correct seeds from 55 discovered.
I need it for find correct seeds from 55 discovered.
Re: Reversing Seeds from Hardlock Key possible
I am trying to find some coded data for verification. Until now without success. This software uses most of the time direct calls to _API_DLL instead of simle HL_xxx functions. I removed ref/ver from the login function (14 files), and was able to start the software. Most calls use HL_READBL and HL_READ and fortunatly memory dump was included in the working copy of the software (strange). For emulation I am using MK, but in this case Toro Monitor don't work and Olly don't stop at _API_DLL where encription function is called. Maybe I didn't executed correct part of the program. Can you send 1 set of seeds?
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